Countess of Desire

[Korwin]

I allways thought that the Deeper Tor is simply his subconsciousnes.

[RyanM]

I tend to think of it as the Tor that might have emerged if Gray and Green hadn't monkeyed around with this DNA with Cortes throwing a wrench in mental works for added insult to injury.

Was Tor even supposed to be an Ancient? I'm inclined to say yes due to the rest of the family
What would he have been without the Green rhetistics coming into play?
What would he have been with the Green rhetistics, but no Cortes rhetistics?
What would he have been with neither set of rhetistics?
What would he have been if his mother had shared affection equally among her male and female children?

How much is nature and how much is nurture?

[John Baughn]

Tor has mentioned affinity with his deeper self being most like how he feels he really is. It is also what he considers his deep building trance state. For a subconscious it is highly productive and useful. His direct effect aura was thought to be only a side effect of the Cordes rhetistics, we have not seen if he still has it but I cannot see any reason why the removal of Cordes would do that. Direct effect is something he did for just being an advanced builder.

None of his older siblings manifested the Ancient pattern, we can say it was Doris doing it but it is also possible that Tor just being in the area was shaping patterns.

There is a lot more to Tor than just Ancient genetics and rhetistic sets...